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9:14 a.m. Next witness on the stand is Fremont County Sheriff’s Office Dep. Colter Cannon. Fremont County Deputy Prosecuting Attorney Tawyna Rawlings will be questioning Cannon.

9:13 a.m. Samantha leaves the witness stand and Larry and Kay Woodcock reach out for a hug before Samantha leaves the courtroom with her husband.

9:12 a.m. Blake asks Samantha if Chad ever told her about him having a vision that Tammy would die before she was 50. “He never said that at all.” Blake asks Samantha if all 5 of Chad’s kids are still alive. Samantha responds that they are. Blake has no further questions.

9:11 a.m. Chad never came around Tammy’s family after he got remarried. “He wouldn’t even tell my parents he got remarried. He made his daughter call my mom.”

9:10 a.m. Blake has some follow-up questions for Samantha. She asks if Chad ever spoke to her about how they were going to support themselves after Tammy died because Tammy was the main breadwinner. Samantha mentions there was life insurance money and “he told us (his new spouse) had lots of money.”

9:09 a.m. Samantha says she has never met Lori because Chad and Lori left for Hawaii. At the end of November 2019, Chad and Lori and all of Chad’s kids went to Knott’s Berry Farm and the beach in California. Chad’s kids told Samantha about the trip. Archibald ends his questioning by saying, “I’m sorry for the loss of your sister.” Samantha tearfully responds, “Thank you.”

9:07 a.m. The visit in Oct. 2019 with Samantha and Tammy in Utah was before the driveway gun incident. They then texted each other about the incident when it happened and Samantha was told some teenager tried to fire a paintball gun at her.

9:06 a.m. “Did she ever say to you that my husband has had a vision that I’m going to die?” Archibald says. Samantha says no. She was not making arrangements to die. After Tammy died, Samantha says she felt “something had happened to her and I didn’t even know why. I had no reason to suspect Chad. I had no reason to suspect anything but I do feel as a spiritual person myself that my sister was telling me something had happened to her.”

9:04 a.m. In June 2019, Chad and Tammy came to stay with them to celebrate Chad’s mom’s birthday. Samantha says the next month, Chad and Tammy came back but they didn’t know they were in Springville. There was a movie premiere tied to a book Chad helped right. “They happened to be in town for that and they just showed up at our door to give me my birthday present.” Chad sat in the car and “it was very unusual.” The next time Samantha saw Tammy was in Oct. 2019. Tammy looked healthy and fine.

9:03 a.m. Archibald asks what a cemetery sexton is. Samantha says they oversee everything at the cemetery, the upkeep, helping people with services, etc. Chad did this for “quite some time” starting in high school as a teenager and then into his adult life. “It was something he knew how to do and it paid well.” Samantha says Chad did not take a job as a sexton in Idaho.

9:01 a.m. Archibald asks if Chad and Tammy were empty nesters when Tammy died. Samantha says they had a son living at home and another son on an LDS mission in Africa. Chad and Tammy did not have any minor children at the time of her passing. All of the kids were adults.

9 a.m. Samantha says she’s an avid reader and read some of Chad’s books to support him but she’s a teacher and doesn’t have time to read everything. She doesn’t know if Tammy believed what Chad wrote was true.

8:59 a.m. Samantha says most of Chad’s books were fictional and geared toward religious aspects. Some were advertised as fiction, others were not. “Were you aware that at one time he said everything I have written is true?” Archibald asks. Samantha says she doesn’t know about that statement and doesn’t recall him ever saying that to her.

8:58 a.m. Tammy helped Chad write the books. “Did you ever hear Tammy say Chad, quit trying to sell books? Get a real job,” Archibald asks. Samantha says she never heard a conversation like that. Tammy helped Chad publish the books and was in charge of the graphic design of the books. She was instrumental in the process.

8:57 a.m. Archibald asks Samantha if Tammy went with Chad to his conferences. Samantha says she didn’t go with him because she had a job and was taking care of the kids. Archibald asks Tammy where Chad would go to sell his books. Samantha says she didn’t track him but he’s been to Idaho, Arizona, Utah to speak and sell his books.

8:55 a.m. Samantha doesn’t recall when Chad first talked to her about his near-death experiences. She says those are normally spiritual experiences that people keep private. Archibald responds, “Chad was making money and writing books and going to conferences based off his spiritual experiences.”

8:53 a.m. Archibald asks Samantha when Chad and Tammy moved to Rexburg. She says she doesn’t remember the exact year but says they lived in Rexburg at least three or four years before Tammy died. Samantha says it became harder to stay in touch after Chad and Lori moved to Rexburg. Archibald asks if Chad spoke to Samantha about his near-death experiences. She says he did. Archibald asks Samantha to describe Chad’s books. “They were very spiritual in nature. He did make some money off them – I don’t know the exact amount.”

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